Ed Gamble ba ya son kallon kansa a kan allo. "Na san yawancin masu wasan barkwanci da ke fama da kallon kansu," in ji shi. "Bai kamata kowa ya rika kallon fuskarsa haka ba. Yana jin kamar girman kai kuma kamar mafi munin azabtar da kai da za ka iya yi."
Abin takaici a gare shi, yana ko'ina. Gamble yana gabatar da shirin BBC mai matukar nasara na abokin tafiyar The Traitors, The Traitors: Uncloaked, tare da shahararren podcast din Off Menu, tare da mai wasan barkwanci kuma dan takarar Celebrity Traitors na yanzu James Acaster.
A cikin bazara, Gamble ya dauki bakuncin wani sabon shiri, Unacceptable, wanda a cikinsa masu wasan barkwanci ke kokarin kare munanan ra'ayoyinsu—tsarin da Romesh Ranganathan ya samar, tabbas shi ne kadai mai wasan barkwanci da ya fi Gamble nauyin aiki. Wani jerin shirye-shirye zai fara wata mai zuwa. Wani shiri na musamman na Amazon Prime, wanda ya dogara da rangadin wasan barkwanci biyu na karshe na Gamble, shi ma zai kasance a wannan watan. Tabbas, yana godiya kuma yana farin ciki da duk wannan. Ya dade tun da na hadu da wani mai sanin kansa kuma mai son amincewa da dimbin damar da ya samu ba tare da kowace alamar bacin rai ba.
Gamble ya san kowane juyi na The Celebrity Traitors, ciki har da wanda zai yi nasara ko wadanda za su yi nasara, tun lokacin da aka dauke shi watanni da suka wuce. Yaya yake tafiyar da matsin lambar rike shi duka?
"Ko da matata ce, wadda take son shirin, ina so in gaya mata abin da nake yi a ranar aiki, amma ba zan iya gaya mata wanda na hadu da shi ba," in ji shi. Sa'a, mutane gaba daya ba sa son sani. Idan sun tambaye shi, Gamble na iya yin kamar zai gaya musu. "Sai ka ga fuskarsu ta ce: 'Ba na son hakan. Ina son zama wani bangare na tattaunawar kasa.'"
Mun hadu a wata rana mai sanyi a watan Oktoba a wani lambun mashaya kusa da gidansa na gabashin London. Jarumin Myha'la, wanda aka kore shi daga shirin, ya yi tsokaci a Instagram game da ra'ayoyin cewa akwai son zuciya na kabilanci da al'adu a cikin mu'amalar 'yan wasa. "Tabbas ba zan so in yi watsi da kwarewar wani ba," in ji Gamble. "Ina kuma tunanin Myha'la ya ce ya sanya hannu kan takardar mutuwarsa da kyaftawar ido [ga Richard E Grant jim kadan kafin a tona shi a matsayin mayaudari]. Amma tabbas hakan ba ya nufin ba gaskiya ba ne, kuma abu ne da ya kamata a tattauna kuma a duba."
Gamble ya bayyana kansa a matsayin mai "sha'awar" Traitors (ya bayyana cewa iyawarsa ta sha'awa wani bangare ne na halayensa). "Ba na son idan ina tunanin mutane ba sa wasa sosai," in ji shi, yana murmushi ga daidaitonsa. Ya san da yawa daga cikin mutanen da ke cikin wannan jerin—abokan wasan barkwanci Ranganathan, Joanne McNally, Rob Beckett da Acaster—amma jarumin Ross Kemp ne wanda, in ji Gamble, "na fi jin dadin shiga, kuma ina tsammanin ya zama wanda na fi so ya zuwa yanzu." Shi da Acaster sun taba samun Kemp a podcast dinsu na Off Menu. "Shi kamar wani abin mamaki ne. Tabbas yana da wannan abu na mutum mai karfi, amma kuma, shi cikakken jarumi ne, cikakken mai son shahara kuma, daga abin da muka gani a Celebrity Traitors ya zuwa yanzu, mai matukar jin kai, mai matukar motsin rai, yana matukar kula da wasan. Ina tsammanin akwai abubuwa da yawa da ke faruwa da Ross Kemp da nake ganin abin so ne kuma abin dariya sosai."
Lokacin girma, Gamble da farko yana so ya zama jarumi, "saboda abin da na sani ke nan. Ina son fina-finai da talabijin, kuma tabbas ban san 'mai wasan barkwanci' a matsayin aiki ba." Lokacin da yake shekara 13, mahaifiyarsa ta kai shi kallon wasan Steve Coogan, kuma ya fara kallon shirye-shiryen barkwanci a BBC2, kamar Goodness Gracious Me. Ya karanta falsafa a Jami'ar Durham, inda ya yi wasan barkwanci na zane kuma ya sami abokai masu irin wannan tunani, ciki har da mai wasan barkwanci Nish Kumar, wanda daga baya ya raba falo da shi a London. Bayan jami'a, Gamble ya gwada wasan barkwanci, "kuma ya kamu da sonsa – kawai kokawa da yin wasa a kan mataki." Ya rika yin wasa akai-akai, ya yi wani podcast na barkwanci mai tasiri (Peacock and Gamble, tare da mai wasan barkwanci Ian Boldsworth), sannan ya fara fitowa a talabijin a farkon shekarun 2010. Aikinsa tun daga lokacin kamar ba zai tsaya ba.
Duba hoto a cikakken alloMai aunawa … Ed Gamble a cikin The Great Celebrity Bake Off for Stand Up to Cancer a 2022. Hoto: Mark Bourdillon /Channel 4
Sabon shirinsa na wasan barkwanci, Fresh Hell, wanda zai yi rangadi a shekara mai zuwa, shine, in ji shi, "wani shiri mai matukar nauyi na motsin rai. Tabbas na siyasa. Yawancinsa game da goge bandaki ne. Wauta ce matuka. Abubuwa ne da ke jin dadin fada sosai." Gamble na iya zama mai ban dariya mai tayar da hankali, amma ba ya sha'awar zama mai kaifin baki. "Ina ganin halin 'Zan iya fadin abin da nake so, barkwanci ne' ra'ayi ne na matashi. Kamar, gaskiya ne, kana da cikakken 'yancin fadin albarkacin baki. Amma ana iya samun sakamako, kuma wasu ba za su so shi ba, kuma suna iya cewa ba sa son shi, kuma ba za ka iya hana su fadin hakan ba."
Har yanzu akwai yanayi na masu wasan barkwanci "masu kaifin baki" – wadanda suka fito da niyyar bata rai – amma Gamble yana tunanin wani bangare ne kawai na zagayowar. "Sau da yawa suna magana ne kawai kan batutuwa uku, kuma duk suna da ra'ayi daya a kai. Ina ganin yana da illa ga kere-kere, tabbas, amma zai ragu. Zai ci gaba da dawowa, kuma sau da yawa yana da alaka da yadda abubuwa ke ji a siyasance a duniya."
A wani zamani da za a iya yada shirye-shiryen barkwanci ba tare da mahallin ba, shin yana damuwa da abin da yake fada? "Ina tsammanin haka, amma na taba kokarin yin tunani kan abin da nake fada da yadda za a iya fassara abubuwa. Ina ganin wannan abu ne mai matukar muhimmanci a yi, ga duk wanda ke da dandali na jama'a. Ban taba shiga wasan kokarin bata wa kowa rai ba. Ba ni bane wannan, kuma ba abin da barkwancina yake ba ne."
Kasancewa abin so yana da muhimmanci ga Gamble. A cikin littafinsa na 2023, Glutton, ya bayyana "bukatarsa mai tsanani ta shiga cikin mutane", kamar yadda ya ce. Babban tsoronsa shine wani nau'in korar zamantakewa. Shi ne wannan mutumin, in ji shi, wanda ke karanta kyawawan tsokaci 100 game da kansa, sannan yayi tunani kan mara kyau na mako guda (yana da na'urar da ke kulle manhajoji a wayarsa).
Ed Gamble: 'A matsayina na yaro na kasance kwandon shara na mutum. Ina cin kowane dan kwaya' Kara karantawa
"Ina tsammanin wannan abu ne na zama mai matukar son faranta wa mutane rai, kuma tabbas yana daya daga cikin abubuwan da suka fi ban tausayi a cikin halayena. Amma kuma, ban damu da shi ba, saboda shine abin da ke motsa ni, kuma abin da ke sa ni kokarin inganta abin da nake yi. Ina fata ina da wannan dan sakin jiki da kwarin gwiwa na zama kamar, 'Na yi daidai kan wannan, ku tafi ku!' amma ba ni da shi."
Shin son faranta wa mutane rai ya ragu da yadda ya tsufa kuma ya fi samun nasara (ya cika shekara 40 a wannan shekara)? "A'a, saboda yadda mutane suka fi yawa da ke ganin ka kana yin abubuwa, haka fagen mutanen da watakila ba za su so ka ba ya fi fadi, sannan ka ga hakan yana faruwa." Ya yi dariya. Wadannan ma'aunin nasara na zahiri "tabbas abu ne da za a dogara da shi, amma kwakwalwa abu ne mai ban mamaki, ko? Ba ta da hankali a mafi yawan lokuta. Zai ce kawai: 'To, yi tunani kan abin da wancan mutumin ya ce. Shine ainihin abin.'" Yana samun sauki, in ji shi, "kan cewa, 'Wannan ba shi da ma'ana, don haka watakila yi tunani kan yadda abubuwa ke tafiya da kyau.'"
A cikin littafinsa, ya yarda da maganar da aka saba yi cewa wani lokaci yana amfani da barkwanci a matsayin hanyar kariya. Ya girma a kudancin London, yana halartar babbar makarantar masu zaman kansu ta King's College. A can, alamar sa ta zama "mutumin mai ban dariya mai kiba", in ji shi a rubuce. A rabin farkon rayuwarsa, Gamble yana da kiba. "Na san cewa zan iya zama mai ban dariya, da abin da hakan zai iya yi a cikin zamantakewa. Kawai jefa wadannan barkwanci, tafi
Tambayoyin da ake yawan yi
Ga Tambayoyin da ake yawan yi dangane da hirar Ed Gamble da ta shafi Traitors, soyayya ta gaskiya, rage kiba da son faranta wa mutane rai
Wanene Ed Gamble
Wani mai wasan barkwanci dan Burtaniya kuma mai watsa shirye-shirye wanda aka fi sani da Mock the Week, Taskmaster da kuma hada gwiwa a podcast din The Off Menu tare da James Acaster
Menene wannan hira ta kai
Tattaunawa ce mai fadi da ta shafi lokacinsa a The Traitors, aurensa, rage kibarsa, son faranta wa mutane rai da yadda maza masu luwadi ke kara masa kwarin gwiwa
Me Ed Gamble ya ce game da maza masu luwadi da kwarin gwiwarsa
Ya yi barkwanci cewa maza masu luwadi suna ci gaba da karfafa min gwiwa saboda suna aiko masa da sako koyaushe – yana jin dadin kulawa kuma yana ganin abin dariya ne
Me ya sa wannan magana ke jan hankali
Layin barkwanci ne mai sauki na rainon kai kuma mutane suna jin dadin gaskiyarsa game da jin dadin yabo
Me ya ce game da The Traitors
Ya yi magana kan kasancewarsa mai son shirin da kuma yadda ya ji dadin kwarewar – shakku, wasan da kuma jin dadin kasancewa wani bangare na shi
Shin ya kasance dan takara ne ko mai so
An fi saninsa a matsayin mai son shirin kuma ya fito a shirye-shiryen Traitors masu alaka – duba takamaiman labarin don wace sigar ya shiga
Me ya ce game da soyayya ta gaskiya
Ya yi magana cikin dumi game da aurensa da kuma yadda soyayya ta gaskiya mai nutsuwa take kamar idan an kwatanta da wasan kwaikwayo na zawarcin
Wanene Ed Gamble ya aura
Ya auri Charlie Jamison, likita
Yaya ya rage kiba
Ya kasance mai bayyana gaskiya game da canza abincinsa da salon rayuwarsa, rage miyagun halaye da kara motsa jiki – babu wata dabara ta tsattsauran ra'ayi
Shin ya yi amfani da Ozempic ko tiyata
Ya danganta rage kiba ga canje-canjen abinci da salon rayuwa maimakon magani ko tiyata
Me ya ce game da son faranta wa mutane rai
Ya yarda cewa shi mai son faranta wa mutane rai ne kuma ya koyi cewa hakan na iya gajiyar da mutum – yana kokarin fadin a'a da kuma zama mai gaskiya game da abin da yake so
Me ya sa son faranta wa mutane rai ke zama matsala
Yana iya haifar da gajiya, bacin rai da kuma rasa ganin bukatunka saboda kana ci gaba da fifita amincewar wasu
Wace shawara ce mai amfani ga masu son faranta wa mutane rai
Gwada kananan 'a'a da farko, dakata kafin ka amince da abubuwa kuma tambayi kanka ko kana cewa eh saboda laifi ko kuwa son gaske
