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Sean Astin yana ba ni rangadin sabon ofishinsa. Akwai hotunan fina-finai da aka tsara a bango, tarin takardu, da kuma tarin akwatuna cike da Funko Pops na Stranger Things. "Idan kana nan, za ka iya duba ta wannan taga ka ga gini mai hawa 10 mai tambarin mu na SAG-AFTRA," in ji shi cikin alfahari yayin kiran bidiyo, yana nuna sararin samaniyar Los Angeles. "Amma dole ne ka amince da ni cewa yana nan." Ya nuna mini hoton mahaifiyarsa, Patty Duke, tana da shekara 16, tana riƙe da lambar yabo ta Oscar ta Best Supporting Actress da ta ci a 1963 don wasa da Helen Keller a cikin The Miracle Worker. Har ma da alfahari, ya nuna kwafin katin kasuwanci na Duke lokacin da take shugabar Screen Actors Guild a tsakiyar 80s—rawar da yake yi yanzu (SAG ta haɗu da American Federation of Television and Radio Artists a 2012). Ya ce watanni 10 na farkon shugabancinsa "guguwa ce."
Har yanzu abin mamaki ne ganin Astin sanye da suit da tie, da lanyard a wuyansa. Mun fi saba ganinsa a cikin alkyabbar da aka saƙa da hannu da kuma ƙafafu masu gashi na Samwise Gamgee, yana bin Mr. Frodo da aminci zuwa Mordor a cikin The Lord of the Rings. Ko kuma a matsayin abokin Winona Ryder na ɗan gajeren lokaci a cikin Stranger Things (kafin Demodog ya kama shi). Ko kuma a matsayin ɗan wasan ƙwallon ƙafa na koleji Rudy Ruettiger mai ƙarfin zuciya a cikin biopic na 1993. Ko kuma, ga masu kallo na shekarunsa, a matsayin jagora mai ƙarfin hali Mikey a cikin The Goonies. Astin ya kasance memba na ƙungiyar da yake wakilta yanzu na shekaru 45 daga cikin shekarunsa 55, amma da alama ya tsira daga haɗarin shaharar yara da kuma tarbiyyar Hollywood ba tare da lahani ba. A gaskiya, za ka iya ganin duka a matsayin shiri don wannan rawar.
Tabbas ya ƙware ƙwarewar sasantawa tun yana ƙarami. "Na koyi yadda ake magana da harsuna daban-daban tun ina ƙarami. Zan iya magana da harshen mahaifiyata, zan iya magana da harshen mahaifina da 'yan uwana, kuma na kasance mai sulhu a cikin iyalinmu na maza biyar."
Amma akwai kuma alaƙa tsakanin rawar da Astin ke takawa a allo da kuma a waje. "Abubuwan da nake samu sune rawar 'mai aiki'," in ji shi. "Rudy ya fito daga ma'adanin ƙarfe, Samwise mai lambu ne—hannayensa suna cikin ƙasa. Akwai wani abu na jiki game da ni. Ban sani ba ko tsayina da nauyina ne ko kuma duk abin da rayuwata ta ciki ta zama tare da iyayena, matata, da 'ya'yana, amma na dace da waɗannan sassan."
Wannan shi ne roƙonsa ga membobin SAG-AFTRA 160,000—ba kawai 'yan wasan kwaikwayo ba, har ma da masu rawa, masu yin wasan kwaikwayo, 'yan jarida na watsa shirye-shirye, da DJs: "Na ce ina so in dogara ga sassan halina da aka nuna a cikin The Goonies, Rudy, Stranger Things, da The Lord of the Rings, a madadin membobin." An zaɓe shi a watan Satumba da ya gabata da kusan kashi 80% na ƙuri'u.
An haifi Astin a cikin abin da wasu za su kira "masarautar Hollywood," ko da yake a takarda yana kama da la'ana fiye da farawa. Mahaifiyarsa, Duke, an yi mata gyaran jiki a matsayin tauraruwar yarinya kuma ta sami ƙarfin kasuwanci mai mahimmanci, gami da nata shirin TV wanda ya gudana na shekaru uku a cikin 1960s. Amma ta sha wahala mafi muni na masana'antar a cikin wannan tsari. Tana da shekara takwas, an sanya ta a hannun wakilan hazaka John da Ethel Ross, waɗanda suka ba ta kwayoyi da barasa kuma suka yi amfani da ita kuma suka cutar da ita, ta jima'i da kuɗi. Tare da matsalolin ci, akwai "ƙoƙarin kashe kai, fashewar tashin hankali, da dogon lokaci na baƙin ciki," in ji Astin. An gano ta da cutar bipolar a 1982.
Lokacin da Duke ta yi ciki da Sean a 1970 tana da shekara 23, ba a san ko wanene mahaifinsa ba. Ta kasance tana dangantaka da Desi Arnaz Jr. mai shekara 17 (wanda da alama ya fusata mahaifiyarsa, mai wasan kwaikwayo kuma ɗan wasa Lucille Ball). Duke ta gudu zuwa Las Vegas kuma ta yi aure da gaggawa da Michael Tell, mai tallata waƙa (auren ya kasance kwanaki 13). Shekara guda bayan haihuwar Astin, daga baya ta auri ɗan wasan kwaikwayo John Astin, wanda aka fi sani da wasa Gomez a cikin ainihin jerin shirye-shiryen TV na Addams Family. John da Patty sun yi aure har zuwa 1985, kuma ya zama mahaifin Sean na riƙo. Duk da haka, gwajin DNA a 1994 ya nuna cewa Tell, wanda ya mutu a shekarar da ta gabata, shine mahaifinsa na halitta. Astin ya ce ya kasance cikin kyakkyawar dangantaka da duk waɗannan maza, gami da mahaifinsa na riƙo, mijin Patty na huɗu, Michael Pearce. Ya kira Arnaz Jr. "ubansa na ruhaniya." John Astin yana da shekara 96 kuma yana da farin ciki a ritaya. Sean ya yaba masa don yin wannan yanayi mai rikitarwa, mai yuwuwar zafi ya yi aiki: "Ya so ya yi abin da yake daidai, kuma a gare shi, wannan yana nufin zama mai mutuntawa, sanya kanka a cikin takalmin wani, da sanin cewa kuskure biyu ba su yi daidai ba."
Haka yake ga mahaifiyarsa, wadda ta mutu a 2016. Astin ya nuna cewa yana da sauƙi a kira ta wanda aka azabtar da masana'antar nishaɗi, "domin tana da hankali sosai. Ta kasance mai hazaka. Mahaifina yana da duk wannan horon ilimi, amma idan ka kalli wasannin da suke yi a cikin 70s da 80s, za ta share ƙasa ... don haka ina ganin abin da aka saba ne a dogara ga melodrama da al'adun jama'a." Duk da haka, ya yarda cewa matakin shaharar yara na Patty ba zai iya zama lafiya ba: "Lokacin da kake da kuɗi da kuma wannan tasiri a kan wasu, yana iya zama mai tada hankali ga duk wanda ke ciki."
Iyayensa ba su taɓa hana Astin bin wannan hanya ba, ko da yake mahaifiyarsa ta kasance mai kare shi sosai. Yana jinkirin yin nazarin tunaninta, amma ya ce, "Ina tsammanin tana son gyara zafi da raunin ƙuruciyarta ta hanyar renon yaro wanda zai iya samun irin wannan kwarewa ba tare da wannan rauni ba."
Ya tuna wani lokaci a matsayin ɗan wasan kwaikwayo matashi lokacin da take kan saiti, kuma injiniyan sauti ya yi magana mara kyau game da takalmin hakoransa. "Ya yi gunaguni kamar, 'Yaron yana da ƙwallaye a bakinsa.' Kuma mahaifiyata ta yi hasara. Halinta ya fi tayar da hankali fiye da ni ban ji wannan ɗan cin mutuncin da mutumin ya yi wa kansa ba. Amma haka take kare shi, kamar mahaifiyar beyar. Tsawonta ya kai 4 foot 11 kawai, amma ta tsoratar da mutane sosai."
Don dalilai iri ɗaya, Patty kuma ta kasance shugabar ƙungiyar ƙwadago mai ƙarfi. "Daga duk abin da na ji, ta kasance mutum mai ƙauna."
Kasancewa tauraruwar yarinya a cikin 80s tabbas yana da haɗari. Astin yana da shekara 13 lokacin da ya yi tauraro a cikin The Goonies. Abokin wasansa Corey Feldman, da abokin Feldman Corey Haim, daga baya sun yi zargin cin zarafin yara na jima'i a masana'antar—kuma sun yi fama da shan kwayoyi da sauran matsaloli a matsayin manya (Haim ya mutu a 2010). Abokinsa na zamani Drew Barrymore ta kasance a rehab tana da shekara 13. Astin ya tuna haduwa da ita a wani gidan rawa a wancan lokacin. "Na gan ta kuma na rungume ta sosai. Mun ɗan so juna ... Amma na tuna tunani, 'Ya, yana da kyau ta kasance a cikin wannan yanayin?'" Astin ya ce bai shiga irin wannan abu ba. "Ban taɓa sha'awar kwayoyi, barasa, ko lalata ba. Na yi aure tun ina ƙarami, ina da shekara 21. Mun yi bikin cika shekaru 34 na aurenmu."
Idan akwai lokacin da masana'antar ta fara shafe shi, shi ne lokacin fina-finan The Lord of the Rings a farkon 2000s. Astin ya kasance muhimmin ɓangare na babban simintin, wanda ake iya cewa shi ne cibiyar ɗabi'a ta labarin, amma "ban shirya don wannan matakin gani da shiga ba," in ji shi. "Kuma akwai rashin daidaituwa tsakanin hankalin da nake samu da yawan kuɗin da muke da shi. Ba su da yawa! A gaskiya, dole ne in sayar da gidana saboda na yi shawarwari kaɗan don trilogy." Ya ce "yana da kwanciyar hankali sosai a kuɗi yanzu."
Ya kuma sami kwarewa ta ƙarni na 21: ganin Samwise Gamgee ya zama almara na batsa, memes marasa iyaka, da kuma yanzu abubuwan fan da AI ke ƙirƙira inda halinsa ya sadu da kansa matashi ko babba, ya mutu kuma ya sami jana'iza, ko kuma ya yi abubuwa da Frodo da za su sa Tolkien ya juya a kabarinsa. "Har yanzu, bai dame ni ba," in ji shi, "amma me zai faru idan ya zama ba za a iya bambanta shi da kai ba?"
Har yanzu yana ganin abokansa hobbits—Elijah Wood, Billy Boyd, da Dominic Monaghan—a kai a kai a taron duniya. "Muna da farin ciki sosai. Muna zuwa abincin dare na kyau tare. Muna jin daɗin zumuncin. Mun yi kusan goma sha biyu daga cikinsu, kuma muna da shirye-shiryen ƙarin." Kuma komawa zuwa Middle-earth har yanzu yana yiwuwa. Andy Serkis yanzu yana New Zealand yana yin fim ɗin tsaka-tsaki The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt for Gollum, tare da Wood da Ian "Gandalf" McKellen suna maimaita rawar su. Darakta Peter Jackson kwanan nan ya sanar da wani aiki bayan wancan, wanda Stephen Colbert, mai son Tolkien, ya rubuta tare. Yana da farkon kwanaki, in ji Astin, wanda ya yi magana da Colbert game da shi, amma yana iya ganin kansa yana dawowa. "Ba na tsammanin wani yana adawa da shi. Dukanmu za mu so mu sake haɗuwa da waɗannan halaye, musamman idan an yi shi da hankali kamar yadda muka ji." Kuma an biya shi mafi kyau a wannan karon? "Hakika."
Duk da haka, a yanzu, yin wasan kwaikwayo ba shine fifiko ba. Babu ƙarancin batutuwa a kan farantin Astin, tare da barazanar da ke tafe na hankali na wucin gadi a saman. A karkashin magabacinsa, Fran Drescher, SAG-AFTRA ta yi yajin aiki a 2023 na kwanaki 118, wani ɓangare saboda amfani da "digital doubles" na 'yan wasan kwaikwayo da studios ke yi, amma kuma saboda kuɗin da ya rage daga sabis na yawo. Deepfakes da sauran fasahar hoto na AI sun zama mafi ƙwarewa da yaduwa tun daga lokacin.
SAG-AFTRA tana yin kamfen na shekaru uku da suka gabata don zartar da Dokar No Fakes, tare da haɗin gwiwar 'yan siyasa da kamfanonin fasaha da kafofin watsa labarai kamar Disney da Google. "Tushen wannan doka shine cewa za ta kafa, a karon farko, haƙƙin mallaka na mutum ɗaya a cikin suna da kamanni. Don haka wannan shine gyaran harsashin azurfa," in ji Astin. A farkon wannan wata, ya gargadi Kwamitin Shari'a na Majalisar game da barazanar, amma bai yi watsi da fasahar gaba ɗaya ba: "Ba ma so mu dakatar da ci gaba; muna buƙatar wayewar ta."
Akwai matsaloli marasa iyaka ga wannan batu. Misali, yana da wata ɗaya kawai a aikin lokacin da ɗan wasan kwaikwayo na AI Tilly Norwood ya bayyana. Babban fasaha yana shiga Hollywood, kamar yadda aka gani tare da haɗin Paramount-Warner Bros, wanda dangin Ellison, masu mallakar Oracle, ke tallafawa, wanda ke barazanar ƙarin asarar ayyuka a kan raguwar kashi 40% na samar da fina-finai da TV na Amurka a cikin 'yan shekarun nan (SAG-AFTRA kwanan nan ta sanar da adawa da haɗin).
A lokaci guda, tsofaffin jahohi kamar Martin Scorsese da George Lucas sun rungumi AI a fili kuma sun buƙaci masana'antar ta yi haka. Astin ya ba da amsa mai auna: "Zan tambayi waɗannan tatsuniyoyi a masana'antar su yi magana da hankali da kuma taka tsantsan game da wannan fasaha. Wani lokaci ina jin cewa wasu daga cikin sharhin ba a yi tunani sosai ba. Kuma ina tsammanin masu sauraro suna buƙatar jagorancinsu sosai don kewaya wannan sarari."
Idan Astin ya ji daɗi a cikin rawar, wani ɓangare saboda ya kasance wakilin SAG-AFTRA na gida kuma ya zauna a kwamitocinta na shekaru da yawa yanzu. Har yanzu yana koyo, in ji shi, amma da alama yana jin daɗinsa. "Dole ne in ce, rayuwa ce mai daɗi fiye da jin ana jefa ta da iskoki na masana'antar dala tiriliyan wadda ta tilasta kanta ga jama'a ba tare da wani ainihin ... damuwa ga aminci da jin daɗin mutanen da za su yi amfani da wannan fasaha ba."
Aikinsa ya sami girma da ƙanƙanta. "Na kasance lamba ɗaya a kan takardar kira kuma na kasance lamba 247," in ji shi. "Ko a tsayin kowane ɗayan waɗannan fina-finai, gami da Lord of the Rings, ban taɓa kasancewa a cikin A-list ba." Ya kasance yana da aiki akai-akai, amma kwanan nan yana ƙi tayin saboda ba ya so ya janye daga tattaunawar SAG-AFTRA, in ji shi.
Ganin cewa shugabannin SAG na baya sun haɗa da Ronald Reagan, na tambaya ko ya taɓa tunanin shiga siyasa. Ya goyi bayan 'yan siyasar Democratic a baya, gami da Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, da Kamala Harris. Sananne, ana ƙauna, ba shi da abin kunya, mai diflomasiyya, mutumin iyali, tare da tarihin tsayawa ga ƙaramin mutum da cin nasara akan mugunta (aƙalla a allo) – da alama yana da duk halayen da suka dace.
"Na yaba da hakan," ya amsa. "Tabbas ina da sha'awar, amma ni da matata mun yi magana da yawa game da baranda tare da kujerun rocking..." Ta kasance mai haƙuri sosai a cikin duk abubuwan da yake yi, in ji shi. Ba kawai yin wasan kwaikwayo da aikin ƙungiyar ba, har ma da samun digiri na biyu (a cikin gudanar da jama'a da manufofi), kammala tseren Ironman triathlon, gudanar da podcast ... koyaushe yana aiki. "Don haka a wani lokaci, ba daidai ba ne don karrama iyali."
Don haka ya yi tunani game da shi? "To, koyaushe ina yin mafarki game da shi. Ka sani, 'yan wasan kwaikwayo suna son siyasa. Muna so mu yi wasa da 'yan majalisa, sanatoci, da shugabanni." Ya karkata, yana nuna cewa godiya ga kafofin sada zumunta, kowa yana da dandamali a yau, ba kawai 'yan wasan kwaikwayo da mashahurai ba, kuma ya kamata dukanmu mu shiga cikin tsarin siyasa kuma mu sa muryoyinmu a ji, musamman ganin barazanar da babban fasaha ke yi, ba kawai ga Hollywood ba, amma ga dukanmu.
Amma Astin kuma yana da hankali, kuma mai tawali'u, don kada ya ci gaba da kansa. "Ni mai harbi kai tsaye ne kuma mai gaskiya. Akwai wasu abubuwa game da tsarin darajata waɗanda ba su da tambaya. Amma ni kuma, ka sani, wani lokaci na yi kuskure," in ji shi. Kasancewa shugaban ƙungiyar 'yan wasan kwaikwayo ya isa a yanzu. "Ina jin na isa ga aikin ɗaukar wannan aiki da nauyin tsarin mulki da ke tattare da shi ... Ba na tsammanin wani ya dube ni ya ɗauka cewa ni cikakke ne ba tare da aibu ba, amma ina son ra'ayin cewa mutane za su dube ni su ce, 'Kai, ya daidaita aikinsa sosai.' Wannan yana da kyau."
An gyara wannan labarin a ranar 27 ga Yuli 2026. Wani sigar farko ta ce SAG-AFTRA ba ta ɗauki matsayi ba game da haɗin Paramount-Warner Bros; a gaskiya, sun sanar da adawarsu a ranar Asabar.
Tambayoyi da Aka Yi Yawa
Ga jerin tambayoyin da aka yi yawa bisa ga zance da mahallin hirar Sean Astin game da aikinsa, mahaifiyarsa, da tsawon rayuwarsa a Hollywood
Tambayoyi na Matakin Farko
1. Wanene Sean Astin yake magana akai lokacin da ya ce "mahaifiyata"?
Yana magana ne game da marigayiya 'yar wasan kwaikwayo Patty Duke, wadda ta ci Oscar tana da shekara 16. Ta kasance shahararriyar tauraruwar yarinya kanta, shi ya sa Sean yakan kwatanta abubuwan da suka faru.
2. Me ya sa ya ce mahaifiyarsa mai tsawon 4 foot 11 tana iya tsoratar da mutane sosai?
Yana nufin tana da iko mai ban tsoro duk da ƙaramin girmanta. Yana nuna cewa iko da ƙarfi ba su fito daga tsayin jiki ba, amma daga amincewa da ƙarfin hali.
3. Menene Sean Astin ya fi shahara da shi?
An fi saninsa da wasa Samwise Gamgee a cikin trilogy na The Lord of the Rings. Ya kuma yi tauraro a matsayin yaro a cikin The Goonies da kuma a matsayin Rudy a cikin fim ɗin ƙwallon ƙafa Rudy.
4. Yaushe ya fara aiki a Hollywood?
Ya ce ya yi shekaru 45. Ya fara yin wasan kwaikwayo tun yana ƙaramin yaro a ƙarshen 1970s, don haka yana cikin masana'antar kusan shekaru biyar.
5. Shin yana magana game da kasancewarsa tauraruwar yarinya a hanya mai kyau?
Yana magana game da shi a zahiri. Ya yaba wa mahaifiyarsa don koya masa yadda ake tafiyar da shahara, amma kuma ya yarda da matsi da ban mamaki na girma a cikin haske.
Tambayoyi na Matakin Tsaka-tsaki
6. Wace shawara ce mahaifiyarsa ta ba shi da ta taimaka masa ya daɗe shekaru 45?
Yakan ambata cewa mahaifiyarsa ta koya masa ya kula da kowane aiki—babba ko ƙarami—da ƙwararru ɗaya. Ta kuma gargaɗe shi cewa shahara na wucin gadi ne, don haka ya kamata ya mai da hankali kan aiki, ba hankali ba.
7. Ta yaya kwarewarsa a kan The Lord of the Rings ta tsara aikinsa?
Ta tabbatar da sunansa a matsayin ɗan wasan kwaikwayo mai aiki tuƙuru kuma mai aminci. Rawar Samwise ana ganinta a matsayin zuciyar labarin, kuma wasan Sean ya ba shi girmamawa sosai a masana'antar, yana taimaka masa samun aiki akai-akai daga baya.
8. Menene yake nufi da "daɗewa a Hollywood"?
Yana nufin tsira daga hawa da sauka, ba a kore shi ba, ba ya ƙonewa, ba ya barin shahara ya lalata rayuwarsa, da kuma ci gaba da samun rawar wasa ko da bayan manyan fina-finansa sun ƙare.
