"Yin fushi ba shine mafi munin abu ba. Talauci shine." Haka Robby Hoffman ya zama sanannen mai ban dariya mai rigima.

"Yin fushi ba shine mafi munin abu ba. Talauci shine." Haka Robby Hoffman ya zama sanannen mai ban dariya mai rigima.

A kowane lokaci, za ka ga wani tatsuniya a cikin mafi girman matakin wasan su," murya ta yi ƙara a farkon shirin Netflix na Robby Hoffman, Wake Up, yayin da ake gabatar da ita a kan mataki. Wannan yabo ne mai girma—musamman tunda muryar ta na cikin babban ɗan wasan barkwanci na Amurka John Mulaney, wanda ya jagoranci shirin kuma ya yi imani cewa wannan ɗan New York mai shekaru 36 na ɗaya daga cikin mafi kyawun hazaka a kusa.

Ba shi kaɗai ba. A cikin shekarar da ta gabata, tauraruwar Hoffman ta tashi da sauri mai ban mamaki. A halin yanzu tana kan TV a cikin Rooster, wani shirin barkwanci na jami'a wanda Steve Carell ya fito, da kuma a karo na biyar na shirin barkwanci mai yabo Hacks. Wannan shine karo na biyu kawai da take taka rawar mataimakiyar hukumar baiwa Randi, amma bara rawar ta ba ta lambar yabo ta Emmy.

"Makon da ya gabata, ni Bayahude ne na Hassidic Lubavitch da ke zaune a Crown Heights, New York," shine layin farko na Hoffman a matsayin Randi. "Yanzu ina LA, ni ɗan luwaɗi ne kuma mai yiwuwa ba na yarda da Allah ba." Rayuwar Hoffman kanta ta ɗauki irin wannan juyi bayan an jefa ta cikin haske. Randi—rawar da marubuta Lucia Aniello, Paul W. Downs, da Jen Statsky suka ƙirƙira mata, suna amfani da asalin Hoffman—ta kasance "wani ɓangare mai canza rayuwa," in ji ta a wani kiran bidiyo daga gidan Los Angeles da take zaune tare da matarta, tauraruwar gaskiya ta TV Gabby Windey. Kuma saduwa da Carell, ɗaya daga cikin jaruman yarinta, a kan saitin Rooster ya kasance "da kyau sosai. Ina nufin, shi ɗan tsana ne."

Hoffman da kanta tana kama da ɗan tsana, wanda zai iya ba wa waɗanda suka ga shirye-shiryenta na barkwanci mamaki, inda take ɗaukar hali mara kyau, mai yawan fushi. Wake Up ya haɗa da barkwanci game da mata "masu banƙyama" ("koyaushe mafi kyawun su ne mafi rashin lafiya") da zubar da ciki ("mun ɗaga shekarun zubar da ciki har zuwa 10, muna da yara da yawa masu kyau a hannunmu"). Ba a ma maganar barkwanci game da lalata da yara ba.

Amma duk da cewa maganganunta na wasa suna sa wasu masu sauraro su ji daɗi, "Ni kawai ba zan iya zaɓar tunanina ba," in ji mai wasan barkwanci. "Ina raba su tare da ku. Ina fata ban san wasu daga cikin waɗannan abubuwa ba. Ina fata da gaske lalata da yara ba abu ne da aka gabatar da ni ko na ji game da shi ba. Ina ganin ya fi dacewa in yi barkwanci game da komai, ka sani?"

Ko da yake Hoffman ta nace cewa ba ta ƙoƙarin ɓata rai ba ("Ina ganin yawancin barkwancina ana fassara su da kuskure"), ita ma ba ta ganin ɓata rai shine mafi munin abu: "Talauci shine." Ta yi magana daga gogewa: ta girma a cikin iyali da ke dogaro da taimakon jama'a, ta zama ta bakwai cikin yara 10.

A farkon shekarunta, ta zauna a Brooklyn, inda iyayenta ke cikin abin da za su kira al'ummar Yahudawa ta Hassidic da kuma abin da ta bayyana a cikin barkwancinta a matsayin wata ƙungiya. "Amma ni ma ina da sassauci game da abin da yake ƙungiya," in ji ta. "Tabbas zan ce wani ɓangare ne na addini mai tsauri." Ba ta yi magana da mahaifinta ba tun farkon shekarunta 20, kuma tun kafin haka, bai kasance babban ɓangare na rayuwarta ba na ɗan lokaci. Mahaifiyarta ta sake shi kuma ta koma Montreal, inda take asali, tare da yaran lokacin da Hoffman ke makarantar firamare, tsakanin shekaru biyar zuwa 11 (ba ta da tabbas game da ainihin lokacin).

Rayuwar gida a Montreal ta kasance cikin rikici, tana zaune a gidan da "ya cika da mutane da yawa," in ji Hoffman. Ta kan yi faɗa da ’yan’uwanta maza kuma "tana kuka kowace rana... wani lokacin ina harbawa da kururuwa a ƙasa." Ta fita da zarar ta iya, tana da shekaru 17, lokacin da ta fara hayar gidanta kuma ta ɗauki aiki na ɗan lokaci don tallafa wa kanta ta hanyar Cégep, wani nau'in shirin gaba da jami'a. Bayan haka, in ji ta, "Na kusan daina kuka har abada. Yana ɗaukar lokaci mai yawa don in yi kuka yanzu." Duk da ƙalubalen, Hoffman ta ce yarinta ya kasance "da ɗan kwanciyar hankali," godiya ga mahaifiyarta, wadda ke tashi da ƙarfe 5:30 na safe kowace rana don dafa abinci, tsaftacewa, da kula da yaranta. Ko da yake ta kasance "ba ta nan a hankali," ta kasance "tabbas tana nan a jiki, wanda yake da ban mamaki," in ji Hoffman. "Ko da menene, tana nan." A yau, Hoffman tana taimaka wa iyalinta ta hanyar amfani da rabin abin da take samu don tallafa wa ’yan’uwanta da mahaifiyarta.

Mai wasan barkwanci sau da yawa tana kiran mata—ciki har da kanta da mahaifiyarta—"ƙwarai" a matsayin ɓangare na halinta mara kyau a kan mataki, kuma hakan yana ci gaba a cikin kiranmu, inda take da natsuwa da tunani sosai. Tabbas, ba ta bin rubutun Hollywood na yau da kullun na ƙasƙantar da kai na ƙarya ba. A maimakon haka, tana goyon bayan kanta ba tare da neman gafara ba kuma tana yawan magana game da yadda zama mai arziki yake da kyau. Amma za ka ji cewa wannan rashin jin daɗi ne da gangan, wasa ne na al'ada maimakon rashin ladabi kawai.

"Ina zuwa da zafi," in ji Hoffman—musamman a kan mataki. Amma ba ta yi kamar ba ita ba ce, sabanin, in ji ta, mutane "masu kirki da kyau" kamar Will Smith, wanda aka hana shi daga Oscars bayan ya mari mai wasan barkwanci Chris Rock, ko Ellen DeGeneres, wanda aka soke shirinta na magana bayan zargin cewa an zalunci ma'aikata matasa. A waje da mataki, "za ka ga cewa ni mai daɗi ne," in ji ta. Ba zan iya jayayya da hakan ba—ko da yake ba zan iya ganinta ba, tunda ta ƙi kunna kyamararta don kiranmu, tana cewa ta farka bayan ta dawo daga rangadin wasanta na baya.

Duba hoto a cikin cikakken allo
'Ina jin farin ciki sosai da na sadu da ita' ... tare da matarta, Gabby Windey. Hoton: Cindy Ord/VF26/Getty Images don Vanity Fair

Hoffman tana godiya da nasararta. "Ashe ba ina rayuwa ɗaya daga cikin mafi kyawun rayuwar da ka ji ba?" in ji ta a lokacin bayyanarta na kwanan nan a Late Night With Seth Meyers. "Ina jin haka da gaske," in ji ta. Lokacin da ta fara wasan barkwanci, neman aiki ba tare da alƙawarin kwanciyar hankali na kuɗi ba ya ji kamar "haɗari ne." "Yana ƙara zama da wahala daga rashin kuɗi zuwa kuɗi, don haka lokacin da ɗayanmu ya yi nasara, koyaushe yana jin kamar abin al'ajabi."

Tana fatan ba haka ba ne—Hoffman mai goyon bayan Bernie Sanders ce kuma ta yi imani "kowa yana da hakkin mutunci." Tana jin haushin a ɗauke ta a matsayin wadda ta "yi nasara" daga talauci ta hanyar hazaka da ƙuduri. "Bai kamata ka zama na musamman ba, bai kamata ka zama mai hazaka ba," in ji ta. (Na gaya maka, tana goyon bayan kanta.) A duk lokacin yarinta, ta kasance "ta gaji da talauci," don haka ta mai da hankali kan yin aiki tuƙuru a makarantar Yahudawa mai zaman kanta inda kakanta ya taimaka mata ta sami tallafin karatu, sannan ta yi digiri a lissafin kuɗi. Ta yi aiki na ɗan lokaci ga kamfanin shawara KPMG bayan ta kammala digirinta a Jami'ar McGill a Montreal, kafin ta canza daga lissafin kuɗi zuwa wasan barkwanci da rubutun TV.

"An tilasta mini wasan barkwanci, kamar Musa ko wani abu," in ji ta. (Ta yi nuni da addini da Allah da yawa a cikin tattaunawarmu, ko da yake a yau kawai imaninta shine "akwai wani abu mafi girma fiye da mu.") Ba da daɗewa ba aka saka mata sakamakon bin kiranta, ta lashe Emmy na rana a 2019 a matsayin marubuci a shirin TV na yara Odd Squad kuma ta yi rikodin shirinta na farko na wasan barkwanci, I'm Nervous, a wannan shekarar.

A lokacin da ta shiga cikin ƴan wasan Hacks, ta riga ta gina mabiya masu sadaukarwa—ba kawai ta hanyar wasan barkwanci ba, har ma ta hanyar podcast ɗin da ta yi aiki tare da mai wasan barkwanci Rachel Kaly, Too Far, da kuma dangantakarta mai girma da Windey. Ma'auratan sun zama masoyan al'ummar LGBTQ+, suna raba hotunan bikin aurensu na mintuna 20 a duk faɗin intanet bayan sun yi aure a Las Vegas a shekarar da ta gabata. Duk taron yana da salo mai kyau, mai tawaye, ciki har da sanarwar Instagram ta Windey mai taken: "Miji da mata!!"

Ko da yake Hoffman ta bayyana kanta a matsayin mace, ta yi tiyatar sama—ciwon nono wanda yawanci ana danganta shi da maza masu canza jinsi da mutanen da ba su da jinsi. Yin amfani da karin sunan su/ su "zai zama zaɓi mai dacewa ga mutum kamar ni," in ji ta ga masu sauraro a cikin shirin da ta yi rikodin don jerin Verified Stand-Up na Netflix, kafin ta yi barkwanci mai tsawo game da al'ummar da ba su da jinsi.

Ta fi tausasawa kan batun lokacin da muka tattauna shi, ko da yake tana goyon bayan barkwancinta ("Idan ba zan iya magana game da shi ba, wa zai iya? Yana da hauka. Za ka bar Joe Rogan kawai ya yi magana game da wannan shirme?"). Ta ce tana girmama abokanta da ba su da jinsi kuma tana amfani da karin sunan da suka zaɓa ("tabbas"); game da asalinta, tana "tabbas a cikin sararin da ba na jinsi ba." Ta fi jin daɗin zama mace, ko da yake "wani abu ba daidai ba ne," in ji ta, saboda "yawancin 'yan mata ba sa son yanke nononsu." A gare ta, yanke shawarar yin tiyata ya zo ne saboda ta fi son "bayyanar jiki na namiji. Na fi jin daɗi ta wannan hanya."

Lokacin da take jin yana da mahimmanci, Hoffman ba ta jin tsoron yin magana, kamar yadda ta yi a 2023 lokacin da Ƙungiyar Marubuta ta Amurka (WGA) ta sanar da yajin aiki don samun ƙarin albashi ga marubuta, ingantaccen aiki, da ƙa'idodi masu tsauri kan hankali na wucin gadi. A lokacin, WGA ta ce halayen manyan kamfanoni "sun ƙirƙiri tattalin arzikin gig" wanda ke haɗarin mayar da rubutu "sana'a mai zaman kanta gaba ɗaya." Hoffman ta yi tambaya game da wannan yanke shawara bayan ta duba bayanan kuɗi na ƙungiyar da idon mai lissafin kuɗi.

"Na ce: hey, hey, hey, kun kai ƙara? Me ya sa ba mu yi ba? Ya kamata mu biya lauyoyi kuma mu yi yaƙi a kowane mataki. Tunanin yin yajin aiki kafin mu gwada duk sauran hanyoyin shari'a ya ji kamar mari a fuska."

Duba hoto a cikin cikakken allo
Tare da Megan Stalter da Paul W Downs a cikin Hacks. Hoton: Sky

Watanni a cikin yajin aikin, membobin WGA sun fara kula da ra'ayinta. "Na sami mutane da yawa, ɗaruruwan mutane a cikin DMs na, suna cewa: hey, me kake magana akai? Ko a ina zan iya ganin wannan bayanin?" Amma tambayoyinta ba a karɓe su da kyau a taron farko na WGA ba—an yi mata ihu—kuma yanzu ta ce "watakila lokacina na autistic ne kuma bai dace ba."

Hoffman ta taɓa bayyana kanta a matsayin autistic, amma ba ta da takardar shaidar likita. "Amma zan ce ni da matata muna kallon Love on the Spectrum, kuma tana jin tana fahimtar ni da kyau da kowane shiri."

A ƙarshen kiranmu, na ji muryar Windey mai ban sha'awa a layi; ta zo ta gaya wa Hoffman akwai avocado toast da ruwan lemu da aka shirya don karin kumallo. "Wannan yana da kyau sosai, ƙaunata. Na gode," in ji Hoffman, muryarta ta yi laushi zuwa sauti mai taushi.

Mai wasan barkwanci ta kasance ba ta da aure na ɗan lokaci kafin ta sadu da Windey shekaru uku da suka wuce a wajen wani mashaya a LA. "Wani ƙaramin mashaya ne, amma yana da dare na 'yan mata kuma na rasa mafi yawansa saboda ina yin wasan barkwanci a waje," in ji Hoffman. "Amma na je a ƙarshe don saduwa da aboki, kuma mutane suna barin wurin. Na ce: bari mu roƙi sigari." Don haka ita da abokinta suka fita waje, inda Windey ke jiran Uber: "Na sadu da abokina."

Bayan ɗan tattaunawa, "Na ce: saurara, ba zan yi ta zagaya ba—abin wasa ne a mashayan 'yan mata—amma dole in sami lambar wayarka," in ji Hoffman. Dole ne ya zama abin mamaki ganin tsohuwar tauraruwar The Bachelorette, wadda ta bayyana kanta a matsayin madaidaiciya kafin ta sadu da Hoffman, a daren 'yan mata, na ce. "Ta ce tana bincike," in ji Hoffman. Ta yi dariya kuma ta ce, "Na ji wannan a baya." Sannan ta ƙara da cewa, "Ina jin farin ciki sosai da na sadu da ita. Muna son zama tare. Muna son zama tare. Ba za mu haifi yara ba – ita ce iyalina. Ita ce rayuwata kuma ni nata, kuma muna son hakan." Wannan ba yana nufin koyaushe yana da sauƙi ba. "Ba za mu kasance cikin dangantaka inda ba za mu taɓa cutar da junanmu ba," in ji ta. "Kuma hakan yana da kyau. Mu magance shi."

Gaskiyar Hoffman mai ban sha'awa ita ce babbar dalilin da ya sa masu sauraro ba za su iya ƙarawa ba. Ta ƙara kwanaki 10 a rangadinta kuma tana da shirin TV da ke aiki. "Dukanmu za mu yi rayuwa mai farin ciki da zafi da wahala da farin ciki da duka," in ji ta. "Ni kawai ba na ganin aikina ne in kare kowa daga komai ba." To me take gani a matsayin aikinta? "Aikina shine kawai in zama ni. Ina ƙoƙarin barin kaina in zama 'ni' gwargwadon iko." Hacks yana samuwa a Burtaniya a Sky Atlantic da Now.

Kana da ra'ayi game da batutuwan da aka tada a cikin wannan labarin? Idan kana son ƙaddamar da amsa har zuwa kalmomi 300 ta imel don yiwuwar bugawa a cikin sashen wasiƙunmu, da fatan za a danna nan.

Tambayoyi da Amsoshi
Ga jerin tambayoyi da ake yawan yi dangane da maganar da kuma tushen salon barkwanci mai rikitarwa na Robby Hoffman



Tambayoyi na Matakin Farko



Q Wanene Robby Hoffman

A Ita 'yar wasan barkwanci ce kuma marubuciya 'yar Kanada da aka sani da salon barkwanci mai tsauri da gaskiya Ta girma a cikin al'ummar Yahudawa ta Hassidic mai tsauri a Montreal kuma daga baya ta bar ta don neman wasan barkwanci



Q Me take nufi da cewa Ɓata rai ba shine mafi munin abu ba Talauci shine

A Tana cewa yayin da kalmomi ko barkwanci zasu iya cutar da jininka wannan zafi na wucin gadi ne Ta girma cikin talauci ta fuskanci wahala ta gaske mai dorewa Tana ganin cewa wahalar abin duniya ta fi muni fiye da wani ya faɗi abin da ba ka so



Q Tana cewa yana da kyau a ɓata rai

A Ba daidai ba Tana jayayya cewa tsoron ɓata rai ya zama mafi mahimmanci ga al'umma fiye da magance matsaloli na gaske kamar talauci Tana ganin ya kamata mu kasance masu ƙarfi game da ɗaukar barkwanci kuma mu mai da hankali kan magance matsaloli masu tsanani



Q Me ya sa wannan maganar take da rikici sosai

A Domin tana ƙalubalantar ra'ayin zamani cewa amincin tunani shine mafi girman fifiko Mutane da yawa suna ganin cewa hana ɓata rai aiki ne na ɗabi'a Maganar Hoffman tana nuna cewa wannan fifiko abin alatu ne wanda talakawa ba za su iya ba



Q Wannan barkwanci ne kawai mai muni ko mai kaifi

A Barkwanci ne amma kuma wani ɓangare ne na falsafarta Ta yi amfani da labarin rayuwarta—girma cikin talauci a cikin al'ummar addini mai tsauri—a matsayin shaida Ba ta yin muni kawai tana yin nuni game da fifiko



Tambayoyi na Matakin Ci gaba



Q Ta yaya asalinta a cikin al'ummar Hasidic ya tsara wannan ra'ayi

A A cikin wannan al'umma rayuwa ta kasance game da tsira da ƙa'idodi masu tsauri Babu wurin yin korafi game da ƙananan cin zarafi ko raunin ji Lokacin da ta bar ta ga duniyar waje tana damuwa da ɓata rai wanda ya zama abin ban mamaki a gareta idan aka kwatanta da wahalar da ta fuskanci



Q Menene babban sukar gardamarta na talauci vs ɓata rai